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It's not that black and white, the law takes into account cause, so if the home owner contributes to injury even for someone there illegally they can be liable. These cases are usually settled long before any formal ruling, nobody in their right mind will risk their house for a punitive amount and lawyers know it.

Crooks want cash not a cellmate.

We are discussing two different things, you are talking about post criminal convictions, I'm talking about being sued long before or in the absence of any criminal conviction. Nobody given the sensible advice would take a civil case to court risking 30K+ in legal fees if the alternative was to settle for $10k.

If you want to see the same mechanism at play study Workcover, or study how the CCCP leverages people into become spies, it's all about risk management. Why do you think companies settle or people relent, because the risk on the other side of the equation is too great.

You'd be a dead set dud if you legally advised someone to risk $30K, $50k or there house to save $10k, and it is in that margin that blokes like Lennon worked because they can. I suppose if you have cash to burn you can stand the high moral ground.

Quote from: LP – on October 24, 2025, 02:02:09 pm

We are discussing two different things, you are talking about post criminal convictions, I'm talking about being sued long before or in the absence of any criminal conviction. Nobody given the sensible advice would take a civil case to court risking 30K+ in legal fees if the alternative was to settle for $10k.

If you want to see the same mechanism at play study Workcover, or study how the CCCP leverages people into become spies, it's all about risk management. Why do you think companies settle or people relent, because the risk on the other side of the equation is too great.

You'd be a dead set dud if you legally advised someone to risk $30K, $50k or there house to save $10k, and it is in that margin that blokes like Lennon worked because they can. I suppose if you have cash to burn you can stand the high moral ground.

You cannot sue for injuries suffered while committing a crime EOS.

If you managed to get the case to court, it would be laughed out by the judge and/or jury.

“Just how did you injure your leg Mr Smith?”

“I was kicking in the door so we could do a burg yer honour.”

You cannot sue for injuries suffered while committing a crime EOS.

If you managed to get the case to court, it would be laughed out by the judge and/or jury.

“Just how did you injure your leg Mr Smith?”

“I was kicking in the door so we could do a burg yer honour.”

Quote from: DJC – on October 24, 2025, 05:47:25 pm

You cannot sue for injuries suffered while committing a crime EOS.

If you managed to get the case to court, it would be laughed out by the judge and/or jury.

“Just how did you injure your leg Mr Smith?”

“I was kicking in the door so we could do a burg yer honour.”

You haven't committed a crime until you are found guilty, at least here in Australia.

When there is a settlement there is no jury, no judge and not many questions, it all happens across a desk.

My recommendation is you have a long long calm chat with legal aid before you jump at a defence.

Victoria is mainly suffering at the hands of under 6,000 crooks and you'd think that the police, courts and politicians could come up with a more effective way of curtailing their illegal activities.

The most common principal offences for police proceedings were:

fare evasion in New South Wales (26%)
acts intended to cause injury in the Australian Capital Territory (29%), the Northern Territory (27%), and Victoria (22%)
illicit drug offences in South Australia (25%)
theft in Tasmania (24%), and Queensland (20%).

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-25/victoria-crime-statistics-agency-new-stats-highest-number/105814382