1. Pittonet and sweet had the same amount of disposals in the 2nd half. Sweet had 1 more hitout in the 2nd half. Pitto had 1 more clearance in this time. (Cant access hta stats) 2. Pittonet took both his marks in the first quarter. Had 5 touches to sweets 0, but lost hitouts 10-3. 1-0 in clearances. 3. His 2nd quarter Hitouts 12-10 Clearances 3-2 Disposals 3-2
I think his best was Q1 and broke even every quarter from there.
Edit: TOG stats shows sweet played 88% pitto played 75%. That is equivalent to an extra 16 minute of play. 16 minutes of play where he was up against our backup ruck. Yet no advantage in the stats.
FWIW, Pittonet and Sweet had 12 hitouts to advantage each.
Also Young only attended 12 ruck contests, for 3 hitouts and 0 to advantage. Not sure what he offered in the ruck that Cripps and Kennedy do not. He managed 1 clearance. (McGovern and Ollie Hollands also had 1) He was a complete bust there.
He was involved in just 1 defensive 1 on 1 contest, which he lost.....so was no better there. For comparison..... Kemp lost both he was involved in as well. Weiters was involved in 8 and lost just 1. McGovern won his only contest. Allir was in 10 and lost 4
We desperately need to find a genuine CHB and forget about picking/shoehorning in another 'tall' to ruck. I didn't mind the experiment, but we got the information we needed. Time to look elsewhere.
Agree Prof, Im happy to trade Young out and try my luck with someone else as a KP tall defender, his intensity is zero and he looks cooked as far as wanting to contest hard and is a shadow of the player who impressed in his first season. Cerra is also wanting it bruise free and looking for the cheapie on the outside....one clearance , one tackle and only 4 contested out of his miserable 15 possessions isnt good enough for what we are paying him and he needs to support Cripps, Walsh etc better or learn about responsibility and workrate in the VFL. Too many players wanting it bruise free and for the usual suspects in Cripps and Walsh doing the hard yakka, wearing the knocks and those two looked jaded and tired at the end. Walsh looks really out of sorts and needs a rest but we cant afford it given we have nothing to replace him with. I can see Ben Camporeale playing a lot of footy next season....
Cerra has been a bust since his injury.
He's had enough time to turn get up to speed. I don't expect to see an improvement over what Cerra gives us, but it might be time to reward Binns with a game who is in white hot form in the 2's.
Our biggest issue with wins/losses from here lies in the ladder, and not simply position, but the teams around us.
Sydney have top spot. Someone will have to travel to Sydney in week 1, they'll win and have the bye in week 2 and will host week 3 as well. Currently we are 2nd. 3rd-6th are all interstate teams (currenty - Port, Freo, Brisbane, GWS) and they will host 2 games at a minimum, possibly all 3.
7th is Geelong which has the option of hosting games down at KP.
There may not be a game at the MCG in week 1 of finals unless we get up 2nd, or fall to 5th.
We need to win games like this to avoid travelling interstate in the finals.
. {1} Pittonet: in the first half he was pretty good, but after half time he got smashed. Sweet gave him a lesson on how to palm the ball to advantage. Port got their hands on the ball first and got the ball out too easily. Marc did take 2 marks tonight and was one of the reasons we played as well as we did in the 2nd quarter, but after that he barely touched the ball.
Some inaccuracies with this post.
1. Pittonet and sweet had the same amount of disposals in the 2nd half. Sweet had 1 more hitout in the 2nd half. Pitto had 1 more clearance in this time. (Cant access hta stats) 2. Pittonet took both his marks in the first quarter. Had 5 touches to sweets 0, but lost hitouts 10-3. 1-0 in clearances. 3. His 2nd quarter Hitouts 12-10 Clearances 3-2 Disposals 3-2
I think his best was Q1 and broke even every quarter from there.
Edit: TOG stats shows sweet played 88% pitto played 75%. That is equivalent to an extra 16 minute of play. 16 minutes of play where he was up against our backup ruck. Yet no advantage in the stats.
Kemp isnt big enough to play CHB, we dont have a real deal CHB thats the problem...McGovern and Kemp are essentially the same type of intercept defender and there is probably room for one only and you can throw Marchbank in that group too. We need a 196cm/100kg plus strong CHB who can take the load off Weitering as you, I, and a few others have discussed ad nauseam. Our defense rebounds well but doesnt defend so well and allows too many opposition marks and when you get spuds like Esava influencing games down forward its time to rethink what we are doing and admit its not working.
You are preaching to the converted mate.
My only point re Kemp was that he should've been forward (if fit) in the last.
At the ground I thought Pittonrt was useless. Charlie was well beaten.weitering beat Dixon but not much else.
Charlie had... - 2nd for m gained - 547m gained. (McGovern had 553m, next best was cripps with 370m and Walsh with 358m) - most inside 50s - 6 - most contested marks - 3 - most goals - 3 - most fantasy points on the ground (afl app) - 113.
Well beaten??
Pittonet had... - =2nd clearances - 5 (cripps 9, Walsh and Hewett 5) - =4th in contested marks - 1 - 232m gained which was twice as much as saad. 3 times as much as Hewett. And better than 8 other Carlton players including cottrell. - more disposals, more inside 50s, more clearances, more m gained than his direct opponent. (Some stats still not loaded yet but there will be more)
So he did his job as well.
Now, my comments were based off what I saw. I only went OK the stats to justify it because I'm not sure what you saw.
Problem is our talls are A graders, our smalls probably C's at best.
First choice maybe. Replacement talls are d grade (don't give e grades anymore otherwise they would be here).
Look I was, I wouldn't say optimistic, but excited to see how we'd go with mix n matching the players we had available.
However....It was a terrible fail.
Both in terms of output and 'data collected' We should've tried to move players around a bit more to find a mix that worked. We didn't.
I think pitto was good in the ruck. I thought Charlie was good up forward. I thought weiters was good down back. I thought gov was passable. I thought Kemp and young were largely disappointing. Too many fumbles. Too slow to make decisions. Not enough 'swinging around' from vossy.
